Friday, June 19, 2020
MBA Applicant Interview with Jon Taves
This interview is the latest in an Accepted.com blog series featuringà interviews with MBA applicant bloggers, offering readers a behind-the-scenes look atà the MBA application process. And nowâ⬠¦introducing our Jon Tavesâ⬠¦ Accepted: Wed like to get to know you! Where are you from? Where and what did you study as an undergrad? Whats your favorite non-school book? Jon: I grew up in a tiny town in Northern Minnesota and went to undergrad at Concordia College in Moorhead, MN ââ¬â a private liberal arts college near Fargo, ND. There I double-majored in economics and accounting. Above all else, Iââ¬â¢m a huge economics nerd. To me, nothingââ¬â¢s better than using economic theory to analyze and explain markets. In my freshman year at Concordia I read Moneyball by Michael Lewis and was fascinated by his subject: Billy Beane. Not so much from a baseball standpoint, but by how he exploited market inefficiencies. That led me to take Economics 201 my sophomore year, and the rest is history. For its long-lasting influence on my life, Iââ¬â¢d have to say Moneyball is my favorite book. (Not to mention the fact that Michael Lewis is a fantastic writer. His story-driven approach to explaining complex topics is a style I try to mirror in my own writing.) Accepted: What stage of the application process are you up to so far? Jon: I plan to apply in Round 2, so Iââ¬â¢ve got a few more months to put the finishing touches on my essays and press ââ¬Å"submit.â⬠I probably couldââ¬â¢ve done so in Round 1, but I want more time to coach my references and get involved in the community again ââ¬â Iââ¬â¢ve missed it while I was studying for the GMAT all spring and summer. Accepted: Whats been your greatest admissions challenge? What steps did you take (or are you taking) to overcome that challenge? Jon: To date, my greatest admissions challenge has been the GMAT. Prior to the GMAT, the last test Iââ¬â¢d taken was the Certified Public Accountant (CPA) exam. To pass one of the four parts of that exam itââ¬â¢s a simple equation: spend 150 hours reviewing topics and answering practice problems. Get something wrong? Study that topic. Lather, rinse, repeat. Thatââ¬â¢s not a formula for success on the GMAT. More than Iââ¬â¢ve ever experienced before, the GMAT is truly a test of how you think. Iââ¬â¢d read about that in guides and various sources online, but it took me awhile to actually believe it. After taking the GMAT, I can honestly say that thatââ¬â¢s the most important takeaway. (Iââ¬â¢ll elaborate further in the next question.) Accepted: It looks like youââ¬â¢ve got lots of GMAT advice on your blog. What are the three categories one should allocate their time to when studying for the GMAT? Jon: In short, one should allocate their time between the following three categories: 1. Topical areas 2. Timing of answers 3. Identifying question patterns To expand on what I said in question #3, the GMAT is a test of how you think. The best advice I can give is that having an above-average understanding of the topics covered is important, but having an above-average understanding of test strategy is even more important. In total, I studied about five months for the GMAT. At first glance, one might assume that 5% of their time studying should be spent on test strategy and 95% on topical areas. After all, that ratio was successful in high school and college, right? That couldnââ¬â¢t be farther from the truth: I would estimate that I spent 60% of my time on test strategy and 40% on topical areas. (If it focused only on topical areas, an eighth grader would be able to ace the GMAT.) How long it takes for you to achieve that 60/40 ratio will vary. If it takes you a month to get comfortable with grammar rules and geometry, then plan for two months spent on test strategy. Test strategy is broken up into two parts: timing and patterns. The pace in which you answer questions matters. If the goal of the GMAT is to test how well you think, then itââ¬â¢s relevant to incorporate not only how long it takes you to answer a question, but also in what order you answer correctly/incorrectly. Think of the GMAT as a water park. You want your timing to be like a ââ¬Å"lazy river.â⬠Simply put, getting five questions wrong with consistent timing will equate to a higher score than answering the same amount correctly while riding the Verruckt. With its proclivity for patterns, the GMAT is like Taco Bell. Have you ever noticed how they introduce a new product every few months ââ¬â although it isnââ¬â¢t really ââ¬Å"new,â⬠itââ¬â¢s just some derivative of a taco or burrito? Similarly, all GMAT questions are testing the same thing: ââ¬Å"Whatââ¬â¢s the best way to solve this problem?â⬠Keep that in mind while youââ¬â¢re studying. When doing practice problems, your work isnââ¬â¢t done once you answer it. Make sure to ask yourself what other questions it relates to. This will make those thirty-seven quant questions look less like thirty-seven individual feats of mathematics and more like a bunch of tacos and burritos. To close, Iââ¬â¢d like to comment on the importance of the GMAT. Do your best, but donââ¬â¢t let the pressure to perform well consume you. A great GMAT score and nothing else doesnââ¬â¢t amount to much. Perhaps when schools preach about their ââ¬Å"holisticâ⬠approach to admissions theyââ¬â¢re underselling the GMATââ¬â¢s importance, but that doesnââ¬â¢t mean itââ¬â¢s everything. Itââ¬â¢s a lot easier to dominate one test than to be a well-rounded applicant thatââ¬â¢s not only intelligent, but also a leader, collaborator, and problem solver. One of my favorite quotes comes from Mark Cuban. He says that ââ¬Å"there are three types of entrepreneurs: innovators, imitators, and idiots.â⬠To stand out to an admissions committee, you need to distinguish yourself. Everyone applying to the top schools will have fantastic GMAT scores. Whatââ¬â¢s different about you? Whether itââ¬â¢s an interesting initiative you led at work, an extracurricular activity, or a unique perspective on the world, remember that youââ¬â¢re more than a score from 200-800 in ten point increments. Accepted: What is your current job? Do you plan on staying in that same industry post-MBA? Or moving into something new? Jon: My first job out of college was for a public accounting firm in Minneapolis. I worked there for a little over two years until I left for Travelers last November. At both companies Iââ¬â¢ve worked on federal tax projects for C-corporations. Accounting is a solid field and Iââ¬â¢ve met some amazing people while working in it. Post-MBA, however, Iââ¬â¢d like to switch careers. In the short run, I hope to use my MBA to start working in management consulting. After that I hope to start a social enterprise. I was on the board of directors for a non-profit in Minneapolis for two years; Iââ¬â¢ve seen firsthand how difficult it is to be financially sustainable. I hope to put together a business whose profits will be able to support the communities I love indefinitely ââ¬â not just until the last grant dries up. I believe the credibility and connections that Iââ¬â¢ll gain through an MBA program will allow me to make that dream a reality. Accepted: Where and when do you plan on applying to b-school? Jon:à Iââ¬â¢ve narrowed down my list to the University of Michigan (Ross) and the University of Minnesota (Carlson). Both schools have the characteristics Iââ¬â¢m looking for, most notably: strong entrepreneurship programs and a plethora of experiential learning opportunities. Ross and Carlson are pioneers in the hands-on method of teaching; students are able to go out into the marketplace to solve problems, not only study cases about them in the classroom. Where they separate from each other is with Rossââ¬â¢ prestige and its relationship with Detroit, MI. Thereââ¬â¢s no more fertile ground than there to do the kind of work Iââ¬â¢m interested in. Carlson, however, can give me something Ross canââ¬â¢t: a built-in network. Particularly for my post-MBA plans, I understand the importance of relationships. (And my mother would be much happier if I stayed in the state of Minnesota.) Accepted: Can you tell us about your blog? Who is your target audience? What have you gained from the blogging experience? Jon: A professor told me my junior year at Concordia that the best way for him to retain information ââ¬â and truly understand it ââ¬â was to write it down. I recalled this advice a few years ago when I wanted to find a way to remember the information I was reading in economics and finance-related books and articles. Itââ¬â¢s been one of the greatest decisions Iââ¬â¢ve ever made. Not only do I feel like I know more about the topics that interest me than ever before, but Iââ¬â¢ve rediscovered my love of writing. (I was the guy in your college writing class that asked all of the questions and revised his essays a dozen times.) To be honest, my audience is myself. I donââ¬â¢t publicize my posts on social media, but thanks to the wonder of WordPress, Iââ¬â¢ve gained a small following of fellow GMAT takers and MBA applicants. It makes me extremely happy that Iââ¬â¢ve been able to help others along their journey. In general, I write about whatever interests me in the economics/finance sphere. At the time, itââ¬â¢s business school. If my musings on those topics interest others, as well, thatââ¬â¢s terrific. I suppose in that sense I have a Field of Dreams-esque approach to my blog: ââ¬Å"If you build it, they will come.â⬠For one-on-one guidance on your b-school application, please see our MBA Application Packages. You can read more about Jonââ¬â¢s b-school journey by checking out his blog, EF ESSAYS: Essays on Economics Finance.à Thank you Jon for sharing your story with us ââ¬â we wish you loads of luck! ; Related Resources: â⬠¢ GMAT, GRE, SAT, and All Things Test Prep â⬠¢Ã Best MBA Programs: A Guide to Selecting the Right Oneà â⬠¢ School-Specific MBA Application Essays
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